Not for the first time over the past few seasons, Tottenham have let their expectant fans down with a very poor start to the season.

Sitting rock bottom of the Premier League with just one point from four games is a million miles away from where Tottenham fans and Ramos himself, would have expected them to be.

The question is whether Ramos should start to worry. The side looked disjointed and dispirited in their 2-1 defeat at home to Villa and not disimiliar to the side that Martin Jol lost his job for developing.

I don't expect Ramos to be shown the door just yet but defeat in either of Spurs next two games, both at White Hart Lane, against Wisla Krakow in the Uefa Cup on Thursday, and Wigan in the Premier League on Sunday, could lead to him hanging onto his job by the skin of his teeth.

Last season's Carling Cup win seems to be a long way away and the excitement and optimism that the triumph generated has already faded away.